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County Police Will Not Assign Officers To Theaters

Spokeswoman says department is monitoring the Colorado shooting but "have no information to indicate that theater-goers in Baltimore County are at any risk."

 

UPDATE (3:16 p.m.)—The Baltimore County Police Department will not assign police to movie theaters this weekend in the wake of the shooting at the opening of "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, CO.

Elise Armacost, in an email statement, said the department "is monitoring the developing case in Colorado and will continue to assess the likelihood of problems here in Baltimore County.

"We are not assigning officers to movie theaters, but we will increase patrols around malls and movie theaters to alleviate community fears and address any potential threats that may occur," Armacost wrote in the statement. "In addition, theaters often employ off duty police officers, so law enforcement may already be present."

In other jurisdictions such as Baltimore and New York City, police are being assigned to theaters in the aftermath of the shooting.

Armacost called the Colorado shooting a "random horrible crime." Local police in Aurora have been clear that "this is not a terrorist attack or that anyone else is involved," she said.

Armacost said county police "have no information to indicate that theater-goers in Baltimore County are at any risk."

Law enforcement is regularly present around AMC Loews White Marsh 16, according to Capt. Michael Balog of the White Marsh precinct.

In addition to on-duty patrol officers who cover area streets The Avenue at White Marsh shopping center and movie theater employ uniformed police officers who provide additional part-time security, Balog said.

 

Emily Kimball, local editor for Perry Hall Patch, contributed to this story.

Related Topics: Baltimore County Police, Batman, and Dark Knight Rises

Tom Bolander

2:16 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

With all the Red Light & Speed Cameras, there should be quite a few officers available to spot check the Theaters in Baltimore County.
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Al Carlson

2:34 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Classless commentary. Focus on the tragedy, not local government or political issues. Grow up.

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ZIG

3:41 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Agree. Grow up. This statement shows no regard for the victims and a lck of class.

Jon

2:28 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I agree with this decision completely. While tragic, I don't think that sporadic tragedies like this should impart that much change into our lives.

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Freddy

2:37 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

It would be a waste of police resources, have the post cars drive by the theaters and through the parking lots.

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kevin

2:41 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I don't think we should give in to Crazies .Go about your business ,will there be copycats ? Possibly, but I feel Baltimore County police are more than able to handle them.Plus they are also smart enough to tell them how they are going to prevent it .

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kevin

2:43 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

I mean smart enough not to tell them how they are going to prevent it.

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Tim

8:07 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Giving in to crazies is what got many of our rights taken away by "H.S" to begin with over the past decade.

Bruce Robinson

2:42 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

What else, pray tell, will the police not be doing this weekend?

Breaking news?

Move along, folks. There's nothing to see here.

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Bryan P. Sears

2:46 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Bruce: Given that other jurisdictions in Maryland and other areas are increasing police in theaters, we were getting questions from readers about Baltimore County. This is the department's response.

K L

4:10 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

Two weeks ago I went to the AMC theater in Owings MIlls and there were two uniformed Baltimore County police officers there: one next to the person who rips your ticket in half and the other at the door checking your ID and movie ticket.

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Arlow

12:38 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

They check your ID to get into a movie? And yet not to vote?

Freddy

4:26 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

K L maybe they were hired off duty police officers by the theater.

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Tim

8:07 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

More then likely, this will happen.

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Other Tim

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

The article above says "In addition, theaters often employ off duty police officers, so law enforcement may already be present."

Brad

4:26 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

So every time some idiot with a chemical imbalance loses it we need to spend more tax dollars to prevent something that isn't going to happen somewhere else. Come on people. There are more important issues you could be getting upset about

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Red Dolphin

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

right on Brad,,,,,,,,, as for the comet some one made abou the speed cameras freeing up more officers, that person wasnt seriosus ? we still need traffic cops out there doing what they do............chemical imbalance huh ? I guess that about sums it up.
pyschotic too huh?

Harry Callahan

8:07 pm on Friday, July 20, 2012

How about if we get the Governor and MGA to finally accept the position that a judge has decided that the Maryland law which requires that a person have a "good and substantial reason" for obtaining a permit to carry concealed weapons be accepted and we allow more law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons. I know that Colorado is a "shall issue" state where nearly any law-abiding citizen can get such a permit. I'm wondering why no one in that audience was armed. If they were armed they could have stepped up and smoked this scumbag before he killed a record number of people. Face it America, you are no longer a nation of warriors but a nation of sheeple. Strap on a pair and begin to strike back at these sorry b*****ds with your own firepower.

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Zoobie

11:36 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

The perp in this incident had quite an array of 'Body Armor', in places most police officers don't have that protection. He could have held-out for some time against anyone armed. Thank goodness he quit when he did, and waited for police to arrest him. He still had a loaded Glock that was never used.(probably chickened-out on killing himself, or S.B.C.)

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Bill Howard

11:36 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

If some sane law abiding permit holders were in that theatre that nut would have not gotten off more than a few shots AND we would not be giving him free food and care right now.

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Steve

1:02 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

That's one of the stupidest things I have ever read. The last time I was in a movie it was pitch dark. The last thing we need are a bunch of wannabee cowboys shooting in the dark. What would the death total have been if that happened??

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john mcginty

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

harry,this is why ur not a cop..do u know who the bad people our?no is ur answer..some people just snap 4 no reason at all.never be the judge on people u don't know. nobody realy knows why james holmes did what he did but him.all u can do is take care of the ones u love,do the best u can in life.GOD will deal with the rest.i pray 4 u harry..

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Arbutus Town Crier

9:37 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

@ Steve, Wanna be cowboys? well I guess your opinion and thought we would be under British rule? Harry nation of warriors? Were still here from Vets to current military WW2 that's left. grew up with a fire arms and the respect of a weapon.and passed it on. Blue & red States Gee which one has the most?

Kenny L.

11:36 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Yep, that tragedy was one carry permit away from not happening.

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Brad

11:36 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

That's why that didn't happen in VA. Open carry is legal. That dude never would have made it out of the theater if he was dumb enough to try it.

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FIFA_archived

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Yea right, he had a 100 round magazine for his AR15, you might have killed him but he still would have killed many. What are we doing selling 100 round magazines? For self defense?

Dumb question, why are the vast majority of the mass murderers of this type male and white?

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Bart

7:59 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Yeah, right. 100 round clip, tear gas and the smoke it created. The guy had body armor. It would have been like a circular firing squad. The ban on automatic weapons was allowed to lapse. Second amendment crusaders. What a bunch of idiots.

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Arbutus Town Crier

10:55 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

defend freedom- if the country that's why freedom of speech is #1 right to Freedom of speech (vote) if that don't work #2 “keep and bear Arms” if for the people are under control of the government Vs. the people control the government. The education process today do not know the laws of nature and Common sense were the Generation of WW2 knew. So we went from common sense to it all depends how you define what is is? the debates I find on the patch seems its common sense Vs. define what is is? mentality We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights (common Sense) everyone prides themselves of being better than the other thru Education. I hate to tell you we all have the same color blood running thru our veins, And the level that we are to agree on is based on unalienable Rights that makes us equal. Some refuse to use what all of us are born with, but rather use another opinion or teaching of a man.

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Tim

12:31 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Riiight.

He was in FULL body armor. None of the movie going, gun toting schlubs would have had a chance. They'd have just added to the body count.

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Evets

1:48 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Bart - the shooter did not have an automatic weapon. The law that was allowed to lapse (by Congress, BTW) would have banned the type of magazine he had.

John K

11:36 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012

The theater owner, I heard, made his business a "Gun Free Zone". So anyone who would have been carrying, had to leave their sidearm home or in their vehicle. I'm sure this would have made a difference.

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Red Dolphin

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

i ve been heariing that alot, also one off duty i the crowd packing too right ? ( same thing I guess that is to say hed have to check his gun in too)

Buck Harmon

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

If more sane people were armed...the crazy people would get off fewer shots...
Support the Second Amendment..

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Tim

12:39 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

The second amendment only called for citizens to be 'armed' for the specific purpose of a militia.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

It amazes me how this has turned into 'anyone can own a gun'. Nowhere does it say that we all have a Constitutional right to bear arms.

Really, what the Constitution says is that (in today's context)anyone actively in the national guard or active military duty can be armed. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now, conceivably, any male at any time could be called into service, i.e. the term militia. However, this is grossly taken out of context as applied today. There isn't even a draft.

Although the one qualifier I'll make to this statement, I am alright with folks having a firearm in their home. I am a big believer in the Castle Doctrine. Taking it outside of your home? No.

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Buck Harmon

10:00 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

I consider the right to bear arms as personal security... necessary security in order to assist in the maintenance and control of government at various times thru history, and also to the future if necessary. Without this ability , the government functions the opposite of the intended purpose ...to serve the people. The government controls the people....that's a very dangerous and bad thing...

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Other Tim

12:10 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Tim, the Supreme Court seems to differ with most of your argument. Don't get me wrong. Just because the Supreme Court says something does not mean everyone must agree. See their latest ruling concerning Omamacare.

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Tim

11:50 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

Oh, I'm completely aware that the Supreme Court disagrees. Then again, the NRA is, outside of AARP, probably the msot powerful lobbying group in the country.

You don't get justices on the Court if they don't agree with the NRA. Remember, they all get vetted by Congress.

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Tim

1:42 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Buck: Your personal security is not going to prevent the government from doing anything it wants, at any point in time.

Again though, I completely agree and support gun ownership for home self defense. A dead burglar is fine by me.

Sher Katz

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

It isn't like the assailant in Colorado walked in the front door. He came in an emergency EXIT. Aren't hose exits armed with sound alarms if opened? How could he get into that door? Was it unlocked on the outside? While the assailant definately is to blame for the shooting there should be some blame for the theater not keeping that door secured from the outside.

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Bart

6:03 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

It's an EMERGENCY exit. By law it has to remain open. He bought a ticket, walked through the front door, through the theater, opened the exit door and got his things out of his car that he had parked there.

Buzz Beeler

5:40 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

The malls hire county police in uniform to patrol them. It's all part of the secondary permit for part time work. Police are not allowed to work in bars.

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Arbutus Town Crier

6:49 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

What ever happened to taking responsibly for ones actions. A single incident happens miles away and its the Media responsibility of to terrorize the rest of the of the nation.These actions are tactical and not a strategic actions, But if were strategic actions it would be a reason to for tight security. Live life to its fullest go enjoy the Movie and stop worrying about what if's, If you worry your not free! God bless the friends and family of this honorific incident! Amen

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Dennis Gilpin

8:59 pm on Saturday, July 21, 2012

Awful tragedy. The people had little to no chance against a man heavily armed with body armor.We would like to think the restrictions on automatic weapons keep us "reasonably safe". If you have the money ( and the connections ) you can get anything. Would have been nice if several of the people were armed but having an automatic weapon gave him a distinct advantage plus body armor to ward off any attack. So sorry for the families that have to deal with it.

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Evets

9:14 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

He did not have an automatic weapon. He had an AR-15, usually described (pejoratively) as a semi-automatic assault weapon. You can legally buy one in most states in the USA, assuming you are not a convicted felon or have been certified as mentally ill. There are many other and cheaper semi-automatic rifles also available. Many people buy the AR-15 because of its looks (it is cosmetically similar to the M-16 the military uses). The handguns that the shooter in Colorado had can also be termed as semi-automatic.

BTW, I am neither advocating nor criticizing these weapons nor their availability.

Arlow

12:44 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

For crying out loud, this guy was covered in FULL BODY ARMOR! Got it? FULL BODY ARMOR! Even if the whole frikking audience had been packing heat, they would not have stood a chance because he was wearing FULL BODY ARMOR. Unless one had a permit to carry a bazooka. Geez-us.

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Arbutus Town Crier

8:58 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Arlow Good point FULL BODY ARMOR! ! Its not about gun control, laws, its an individuals actions, preventive actions? Dennis Gilpin makes another good point. Percentage of purchased legally for criminal use Vs. everyday crime stolen guns has to be greater percentage. Human beings are very adaptable and have a mind to over come obstacles (drugs, cell phones in prison). That is one thing no one has control of a persons mind, Face it ! their is no rational reason for this tragic meaningless action.

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Evets

9:16 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

You are correct. And, ironically, in most states you are free to own an AR-15 but not the type of body armor that the shooter had.

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Buck Harmon

10:05 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

That is very ironic....what if your occupation is a knight in shining armor...your out of business...

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funnyguy

11:20 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

for crying out loud BODY ARMOR!! FULL BODY ARMOR!!!! lol!

Actually, the FACTS say the shooter had a simple bullet resistant vest and tactical leggings. Tactical clothing does not mean bullet proof, tactical bodywear is cheap-o made in china accessories with a lot of pockets and gun holsters. Made for people who like police gear, not any more dangerous or bullet resistant then any other pants, helmet, throat protector.

I dont care what a person is wearing, even a bullet proof vest, if that person catches a .45 they are badly hurt

There are tons and tons of anti-gun people having a field day behind this case. I can not wait until this story blows over, and all the political cry baby's go back to spewing their mis-information onto the next big news event.

BFD21234

1:18 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

to Tim: I disagree with your interpertation on the right to bear arms. The right to 'bear arms' is not limited to only National Guard and Reserve soldiers. You are combining the two clauses. They are separate.

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Tim

11:54 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

BFD: That's fine. I personally don't agree they are seperate. Given the context of the law at the time (post Revolution) it's clear - at least to me - that they are not independent. If they were truly to be considered independent of each other, they'd have been seperate amendments - or at least properly seperated.

In the end, it doesn't matter what I think. If I were an actual justice, my career would go nowhere with this kind of view. Even if I had proof from the founding fathers via time travel that I was right.

I didn't think most folks would agree with me. There are some solid arguments to be made on both sides of this.

Stephen

4:07 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

I think all theater chains can wait until morning DAYLIGHT to premiere movies! Say start at 8 or 9am. I feel the premiere's at 12:o1 am are over soon!

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Eastsider

5:11 pm on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Why Stephen if a nut bag is going to kill people he will kill at 12, 10, 8 or anytime of the day.

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Tim

9:34 am on Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Eastsider: Yeah.

This had more to do with being the 'first' showing of the movie. It could have been 7pm and he'd still do it. This guy wanted to be a spectacle, doing it at a premier showing gave him maximum possible exposure.

JD1

11:18 am on Monday, July 23, 2012

As long as the "bad guys" have access to weapons, we need to be sure that law abiding citizens can purchase and carry fire arms. Failed gun policy has gotten us to this point, now we need to do the right thing to protect the public and when perps know that someone may be packing they will think twice before acting. Impossible to tell how it would have played out in this case - my guess is they guy would have done it regardless. I think it could eliminate some of the crimes committed by small time spineless dirt bags that feel like they can get away with 50 bucks every time they wave a gun in someone's face.

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Buck Harmon

7:28 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Government control of guns has a clear and parallel history to genocide throughout the world...fact.

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Steve

3:29 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Nope, Not a fact. Government didn't control the guns in Rwanda, Bosnia or Sudan.

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Buck Harmon

5:19 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Take the time to watch this Steve...I think you just make comments with no point sometimes...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDivHkQ2GSg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

kevin

8:12 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Fact are the gun jammed which probably saved many lives. So all you blaming the guns are smarter than the FBI profilers who have consistently repeated,he was a time bomb that planned this for over four months.If guns were unavailable to him he had access to chemicals and knowledge to make bombs and gases that would have wiped out the theater.His money from the FBI sources "He was receiving $21,000.00 from the DHS (FEDERAL GOVERMENT) which he spent approximately $8,000 on guns,ammo chemicals and bomb componets. He also had legal access to Chemicals in the research labs that would have been used if guns were unavailable.He was going to go off,not sure if it was over a break up with a women.Also he was caught by two alert responders that realized his gas mask wasn't regulation. it was Great police work. Finally he didn't do this alone Obama's Educational system gave him the Grant to build his arsenal. This time I guess Obama was right.

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