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Man Commits Suicide at Timonium Gun Range

Police officers found a man dead in the gun range at Continental Arms.

 

A man shot and killed himself Thursday evening at a Timonium gun shop and firing range, according to Baltimore County police spokesman Cpl. John Wachter.

Police responded to a 911 call regarding a shooting at the Continental Arms firing range a little after 5 p.m., Thursday.

It was determined at the scene that the man died of a self-inflicted gun shot wound. Two police cruisers remained in the upper parking lot on Deereco Road as of 6 p.m.

There were no other injuries reported.

Individuals seeking to rent a gun at Continental Arms must first provide a driver's license or some other form of government-issued identification. First time range shooters must also read over the rules and regulations of the range before obtaining a gun, in addition to filling out paperwork.

Patrons are often quizzed verbally on the rules, Patch has observed on a number of occasions.

Additionally, all ammunition used at the range must be purchased there.

It is unclear at this time if the deceased was a regular shooter at the firing range.

The deceased was found in the firing range area at Continental Arms and not the gun shop.

Continental Arms is located at 9603 Deereco Road in Timonium.

Stay with Patch for updates.

Related Topics: Baltimore County Police, Continental Arms, and Continental Arms Shooting

Richard Palarea

1:00 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

I wondered what all the commotion was. That's sad.

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Harry Callahan

1:00 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

This happened once before. This Russian guy who was a regular at the range came in and rented a handgun (something that was unusual for him because he owned his own handgun). While others were on the range, the man took his own life. Police were called and everyone, staff and customers, who were at the range at the time, were questioned at length about the incident.

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Stan Modjesky

1:01 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Thank you for your responsible and thorough reporting on this matter. As a customer of Continental, I was relieved to learn that no employees were injured. And it's a big plus that you bothered to describe the requirements for renting a gun and using the range there.

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Nicole

2:22 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

I agree with Stan. I shared this article all over social media today. Very happy to read responsible reporting as I shoot at Continental as well. Sad and wish he would not have chosen to take his life and esp. in a place where people are shooting.

Jim

1:02 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

It is sorry that a mentally disturbed person will once again make lawful gun owners as a whole look bad !!!

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Laura M.

1:04 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

correction: unless this rule has changed in the past year, all ammunition used in Continental's rental firearms must be purchased in-house. if you bring your own firearms, you can bring your own ammunition.

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A. W.

2:05 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

+1. This is correct.

I was at the range three hours before this happens. Kind of creepy.

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scott morton

3:22 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Wife and I were in there when it happened. Unreal.

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Stan Modjesky

8:56 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

@scott morton - how long did the police keep you around interviewing you?

Steve

1:04 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

"Patch has observed on a number of occasions."

Who is Patch? ....and does "Patch" realize all that paperwork is turned in to the Government?

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John Wayne

1:05 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Obviously, the patron was unware of rule #23... No suicides permitted on premises.

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Kelleyand Terry Bates

1:06 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Suicide is a cop-out. God gave each and every one of us courage and bravery. I know because he gave us all a heart. Use it. Also, there is alot of power in prayer. God is always there to listen. BELIEVE me, I have been there. God has pulled me through in ways I never thought were possible for me.

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Holton F. Brown

2:05 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Prayer might help but a diazapam drip goes a long way.....

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Laura M.

2:11 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

newsflash: your god is not everyone's preferred deity.

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Jim Sagerholm

9:41 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

But everyone is a child of God.

Gail Talbott

1:53 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Be sure that this is not and I say not the fault of the firing range. It is a very professional and responsible range. Obviously when someone decides to commit suicide they have made up their own mind and rarely can anyone really stop someone. I am just glad that this person did not use his sadness in life to hurt any innocent person.

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A. W.

2:08 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

This is the most responsible range in the area. I hesitate to shoot anywhere else. Most reasonable range/ammo fees around. The employees are strict but nice.

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Laura M.

2:11 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

i can see you haven't been to Freestate. i recommend it. i stopped going to Continental when Freestate opened and haven't looked back.

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A. W.

2:18 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Hi!

I've been to Freestate several times. It's nice, but I like Continental better. I shoot frequently but usually wrap up in ~30 minutes, so the inability to get < 1 hour of range time kind of sucks. And their ammo prices are higher.

I admit it took some time to get to know the CA folks, but now that I have... I really like it there.

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A. W.

2:19 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Oh, I do wish CA had FS' target lines. It's nice being able to tell it how far to go with the single touch of a button ;-)

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Laura M.

2:20 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

i guess i've just had way too many bad experiences at Continental. PS: if you join, you don't pay range fees. :P and who's buying by the box, anyway? buy in bulk online, save money! or start reloading...

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A. W.

2:23 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Laura, point me to where I can buy some ammo online on the cheap, and I'll be on that as fast as I can click the link :-P

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Laura M.

2:24 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

SG ammo has had it on occasion lately. it pays to keep shopping the websites, really.

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A. W.

2:25 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

I've been looking, but pretty much striking out. Everything seems to be OOS. I'll take a look at SG ammo; thanks for the rec!

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Laura M.

2:32 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

SG actually has real-time updated inventory, while the other sites i've used (Natchez, Cabelas) generally allow backorders.

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Tom Sharp

3:28 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Wasn't until my second visit to Continental that I realized the staff wasn't just "having a bad day" my first time there. I'll never be back. Being condescending idiots isn't the way to attract repeat business. I'd drive to PA before going back.

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A. W.

3:40 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Tom: I felt the same way the first couple times I went in. However, I then thought about all the stupid crap they must have to deal with on a regular basis and decided I'd probably be cynical about newcomers too. After I had three or four trips under my belt and they trusted I knew how to operate a firearm, it was much nicer.

Lots of people embellish their "experience" with firearms. Being nice is definitely second to keeping the range safe. I had an enlightening experience at a range northeast of here; the RO looked on as this guy *repeatedly* did a muzzle sweep of the range (and it was busy!) with his shotgun. I packed up my crap and left. If the RO isn't going to say something, I'm not gonna be the victim of a ND.

Gail Talbott

3:37 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

love to reload but can't find small quantities to buy

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Bill Wiesand

3:36 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Gail Talbott - maybe you could split orders of components with other reloaders?

james miller

4:58 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

I am very sad this happened and I will chime in and say that every time I visit which is quite often I get the same cold, why are you here type treatment whether in the sales area or the range area in the back. I have been going for several years and also visit Free State and Freedom in PA in which the experience is polar opposite. At continental most questions are answered with a head nod or a shake or a verbal yes or no if your lucky. The gun rental fee for 5$ is awesome and ammo prices are great and THAT is the only thing that keeps me coming back, it certainly is not the experience.

The reason I landed here is because channel 13 news teased this story as 'man killed at continental arms' at 6pm then never followed up. I imagine once they found out it was suicide they canned the story so that other unstable folks don't duplicate which is commendable.

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Stan Modjesky

10:12 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I don't think WJZ's spiking of the story had anything to do with a fear it would create a risk of copycat behavior. Broadcast newsrooms do not make decisions on that basis.

For what it's worth, every range that has been in business for a while has had at least one suicide. What some people have criticized here as a negative attitude from the staff at this place is VIGILANCE. You work in a gun shop or range, and you have a responsibility to watch and evaluate everyone within sight, all the time. Even people who are well known.

I am less likely to shoot at a public range where people are all warm and fuzzy. This is not "fun," folks--it's dead serious stuff, and if you don't think of it that way, I hope you're not on the firing line when I am, because I don't want you endangering me by having so much fun you aren't paying attention. I have seen it, especially with groups of people. In fact, I have left the range and reported it to the RO on occasion.

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Tom Sharp

4:42 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

I am at a loss as to how being unapproachable improves the safety of your customers. If anything, having newbies be comfortable to ask which end of the gun the bullet comes out should be rule number one for a range employee. Then, for people such as this guy, maybe if they actually engaged their customers in a five second "how about those Ravens" conversation maybe they would have spotted that the guy was having a REALLY bad day. I am NOT saying it would have helped in this situation, but if part of their duty is to somehow size-up their customers for everyone's protection, then I do not know how they do that by never engaging them.

Holton F. Brown

9:47 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Stan .. I have to agree with .. a shooting range isn't conducive to small talk ... in a fire house to talk about fires and rescues .. hobby shops talking on building and flying/sailing modells ... shooting ranges, "hey, how many squirrels ya blow away last weekend?" ..now don't get in an uproar out there .. I own and shoot guns .. one's an M4 ..another is a Remington 700 ( M-40..).

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Stan Modjesky

10:24 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

When I am at the range, all my attention is focused on that area downrange of the muzzle. Unless I am coaching someone, in which case all my attention is focused on that shooter and his/her movements.

I would not risk injury by shooting the breeze around moving machinery, and it's just the same principle. You're dealing with an implement that can cause injury if it's handled carelessly. Maybe you'd like to meet my cousin, who lost his left index finger in a chop saw, because he wasn't paying attention...

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scott morton

8:11 am on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Stan- The police had plenty of video evidence to determine what happened so we were not formally interviewed. As far as the staff goes, we found them very friendly and helpful. Wife and I were in there for the first time to check the place out and had just walked away from the lines when it happened. First time at a pistol range for her so it goes without saying she is still freaked out.

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Stan Modjesky

4:09 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

Scott, I'm glad to know that the police did not make matters worse for you, and especially your wife, by doing a lot of interviewing. Please be patient with her, and try to help her understand that something like this is an extremely rare occurrence.

tommy g

1:43 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

My heart breaks for people and the families that choose to take their own life! And especially those of you that don't have a relationship with Jesus Christ.Everyone will have to kneel before GOD one day

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tommy g

2:51 pm on Saturday, February 2, 2013

The people at CA are very nice once you get to know them! The reality is they have a huge responsibly not to mention liability to customers and safety is a serious matter. I think they do a great job keeping that balance of friendliness and seriousness that comes with that magnitude of responsibility! There are some folks there that are like family to me. Im sure that like mine their hearts are troubled over this tradgidy!
Most importantly GOD is in control and He love each and everyone of us more than we can imagion!
My prayers go out to all involved! Blessings and Peace
tommy g

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Robert Kutner

12:58 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

lots of shooters in the range and who know who's deranged. this whole gun thing is out of control. I like to practice at the range too, but did see the cops and ambulance Thursday evening and knew something terrible had happened. How do we stop the madness dear friends?

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Stan Modjesky

3:01 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Every public range that has been in business for a few years has seen at least one suicide. From what I was told this morning, this guy was considerate enough to have waited until nobody else was on the firing line before killing himself.

But you cannot control anyone but yourself: maintain situational awareness, stay in control of your temper and actions, try to act with a bit of dignity and maturity, be as considerate of others as possible. Trouble will still find you. When it does, you deal with it, put it behind you as quickly as possible and stay the course.

Stan Modjesky

12:55 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

It has been asked what may have happened to many of my earlier posts here, and since that's a fair question: I deleted them myself. When I looked back at where this discussion went so quickly, I realized that it had become juvenile, and that none of us had shown the compassion to have asked whether others were injured, or to learn so much as the name of the person who committed suicide. As a mature individual, I am always willing to amend something I have done that reveals bad judgment on my part.

Simultaneously, I had suggested that the editors of Patch remove some of the other comments that seem inappropriate. That they have not done, and that's fine.

Another mistake I made was to engage in a protracted exchange with someone who lacks the courage to make himself unambiguously identifiable. That's a principle I have held to online for many years, and I regret having been goaded into violating it. As one of my mentors is fond of observing: "Never wrestle with a pig--both of you get muddy, and the pig actually enjoys it."

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dcs 71646

2:06 pm on Wednesday, May 1, 2013

Every time I've been to CA i have had a grate experience i am former army 2nd rangers 7th battalion and they have always treated me well i have also brought 2 first time gun users and i thought they did an excellent job of letting them know rules and safety procedures so that counts for slot in my book i have a home in WV and have my own rifle and pistol range but only go there every 3 weeks so i like to shoot 3 times a week and they enforce the rules it is the only place that ask to see my class 3 license for my full auto weapon as to the moronthat said suicide is a cop out you must have not been through much in your life that man must have been extremely mentaly disturbed normal people don't kill them selves thank my god that he did not shoot up everyone

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Stan Modjesky

10:24 pm on Wednesday, May 1, 2013

Apparently the range was not crowded on the night of the suicide, and the guy had the decency to wait until no one else was at the firing line.

I could have been worse. Which is why I don't understand the people who have complained here that the CA people were not sufficiently friendly and touchy-feely for their taste. I want the employees, especially the range safety officer, to be dead serious, and paying full attention.

There's one RSO there who is a long time IPSC competitor, and he does not let anything get past him, especially in the matter of people getting sloppy about muzzle control. I am always glad to see him on the job. The other guy who probably rubs people the wrong way is that 70-ish man with the Italian surname. This man is retired from the Coast Guard, has been in a lot of tough scrapes, and is not someone you want to displease. But I have never known him to be nasty, just extremely direct. It took me about six months of regular shooting there to earn his respect, and now that I have assisted in a couple of classes that he has taught, I have a good feel for the kind of foolishness these people have to tolerate every single day. And, after all, this ain't tiddlywinks; it's a sport that involves deadly weapons.

Stan Modjesky

11:03 am on Friday, May 3, 2013

Oh, is he one of those multiple-identity types that frequent Patch?

Since the beginning, I have been arguing that Patch ought to require real-name identities, or at least check to make sure people aren't posting under several names from the same IP address. To no avail. Back in the era of CompuServe and some of its competitors, you were not allowed to be anonymous, and IMHO things remained far more civil as a result.

No personal insult intended here to El Capitan and some others who have used a pseudonym responsibly for many years. I myself posted a blog for more than five years in which I was not identified by my real name. I had a change of heart about that a few years ago, and the only worry about my using my real-world name is that the occasional abusive phone call has been misdirected to my Mom, whose phone is still listed under my late father's name, which is the same as mine.

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Steve

11:20 am on Friday, May 3, 2013

LOL Stan you are replying to a person who has been banned from Patch multiple times. You might remember him as BO or Kongo.

That's your idea of responsible? That's funny.

Stan Modjesky

11:52 am on Friday, May 3, 2013

"Steve," or whoever you are: that does not make YOU any less contemptible. I can't put it any more simply than this.

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