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McDonough: Towson Does Not Have Mob Violence Problem

A brawl outside a Towson bar Sunday is not comparable to violence in the Inner Harbor, according to Del. Pat McDonough.

McDonough, a Middle River Republican, called the fight outside the Recher Theater that resulted in seven arrests "an anomaly" and not comparable to incidents in the city that he blamed on "black youth mobs."

"I believe what happened in Towson is an anomaly," McDonough said. "It's the result of poor planning and putting too many people in too small an area."

McDonough praised County Executive Kevin Kamenetz and Baltimore County police Chief Jim Johnson for acting quickly.

Kamentez blamed owners of the bar for the fight. The county executive and the police chief said most of the people involved in the fight came from outside the county.

"The county executive and the police chief quickly acknowledged there was an issue and they're working to make sure it never happens again," McDonough said. "This is not what the mayor did."

In May, McDonough issued statements sharply critical of Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake's handing of several incidents in the Inner Harbor area. McDonough blamed the violence on "black youth mobs" and accused Rawlings-Blake and state officials of covering it up.

He also said the Inner Harbor should be declared a "no travel zone."

Two weeks ago, Rawlings-Blake highlighted the safety of the area, according to the Baltimore Sun.

Miss Migraine

11:15 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

I think Delegate Mc Donough should stick to his "Pat and Pizza" parties.....and stop making comments about issues he knows nothing about.

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Joe

11:23 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

What makes you say he knows nothing about the incident? Is this in his district?

M. Sullivan

11:15 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

The first time something like this happened in Baltimore was probably considered an anomaly also. (Although that was probably 200 years ago. Baltimore has a long history of mob violence). The quick reaction by our leaders is what is needed to keep this sort of thing from becoming a regular occurrence.

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Steve

11:45 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

What in the heck is Boss Hogg talking about?

"The county executive and the police chief quickly acknowledged there was an issue and they're working to make sure it never happens again," McDonough said. "This is not what the mayor did."

Has there been any further incidences of mob violence at the harbor since then? No.

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John Patterson

2:08 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Baltimore is in more danger from bigoted state representatives than "black youth mobs."

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Tim

2:20 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

I completely disagree.

It's not a bigoted statement if it's factually accurate.
Bigotry comes from when it's not factual, or simply an assumption based on bigotry.

I am ALL for calling out racism and bigotry when it's fairly warranted. I've done so here on Patch on other occasions. It's definitely, and sadly out there.

Reality is though, the Delegate is 100% correct in his 'Black youth mobs" commentary on that occasion. Proven accurate from police reports. Does he go overboard a bit? Perhaps.

Other Tim

2:13 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

"Kamentez blamed owners of the bar for the fight. The county executive and the police chief said most of the people involved in the fight came from outside the county."
The owner of the bar contracted to a third party. The place only holds 630 people. Apparently this third party sold way over that amount. This promoter had events in other counties that fell through and directed patrons from those events to the Recher. The ones who could not get in caused all the trouble. Now Kamenetz wants to blame the owner of Recher. Ridiculous! Political correctness is reaching new heights here. The county police won't even give the name of the promoter. Baltimore County police chief James Johnson said that one of the people charged was a college student, but he did not know which school he attended? Come on. Blame the people who oversold the event. Blame the local chapter of the fraternity. Blame the national fraternity. Blame the thugs and criminals who caused all the trouble. But blame the owner of the Recher and try to take away his liquor license? No way.

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M. Sullivan

2:26 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

I keep hearing that this event was "oversold". There were no advance ticket sales, as there should have been. It was first come, first served, tickets at the door.

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Needaname

8:01 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Why won't they disclose WHO oversold and re-directed these people to the Recher ? Maybe they are related to Kamentez or Johnson ? They should disclose who the person is who created this problem. Let these disgruntled patrons/thugs invade his neighborhood.

Other Tim

2:22 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Is Pat McDonough a blowhard? Yeah, I guess. But I would rather have people like him in office who speak their minds, instead of a guy like Kamenetz who, instead of putting blame on the promoters and the fraternity involved, blames the owner of the bar.

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ZIG

11:46 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

McDonough will say anything to get a headline. I got this from conservatives in his district. His ignorant statements are dangerous to our county and city. He is not ethically suited to hold office.

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Joe

1:44 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Oh pleeease! Dangerous? More so than lying to the American people and the refusal to use the words "terrorist attack"? Or the leader of the Senate making accusations of criminal acts ON THE SENATE FLOOR during a session against a presidential candidate with absolutely zero evidence? Get some perspective.

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Needaname

2:16 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Maybe McDonough problem is he says what people are thinking.

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Steve

2:18 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Only what the Cross burners are thinking.....

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Joe

3:11 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Please Steve, enlighten us to what you cross burners think.

Chillin

1:27 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

I'm pretty sure none of the above commenters were at the event and therefore are relying on news reports and police press releases for information on what went down. Over 600 people were witnesses to what went down. Is there any aspiring journalism student reading this and who was in the crowd that can enlightern us all. Consider your report your internship.

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Needaname

2:17 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

There where 630 inside the event and no one has claimed there was a problem. The issues occurred outside.

HLV

2:03 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Thank God, when President Obama is REelected in November, the government will confiscare all guns and there will be no more shootings in our country or our schools. Please people, VOTE for no more guns and no more violence in our schools.

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Needaname

2:19 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Let's disarm the entire country so only the thugs can have them.

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Tim

2:21 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Yeah...really thats not the answer.

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Joe

3:00 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

That will surly be a site to watch! 300,000,000 firearms taken by force and thousands will die in any illegal action such as that.
I do appreciate your candor in telling us how you too feel Obama is lawless and will do anything he pleases regardless of the law or US Constitution. THAT is why he will be a one term failure.

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PerryHallCrafter

6:21 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Why would anyone vote for no more guns? While I am neither democrat or republican because I choose to vote for myself, not a laundry list of someone else's ideas, I certainly wouldn't vote to take away our right to protect ourselves. Properly educated and trained, with a safe and proper safety measures in place, ownership of a personal firearm is safe and effective. I wouldn't hesitate to use my training to eliminate an intruder or threat to my family. Unarmed, we are potential victims.

Steve

2:14 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Oh No! Not the whole "Obammy's gonna git yor guns!" conspiracy theory again.

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Joe

2:58 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

"We are working behind the scenes." to Sarah Brady of the anti civil rights group The Brady Bunch. Fast and Furious was the vehicle until Brian Terry was murdered by Holder and company.

Steve

3:08 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

You really are living in LaLaLand. Brian Terry was murdered by a criminal after he fired a bean bag at the guy.

Holder had nothing to do with it. Fast and Fffft." was a Republican witch hunt that fizzled.

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Joe

10:52 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Fizzled? Still an ongoing action with at least 2 "resignations" and 2 dead Americans and hundreds of dead Mexicans. Nice to see you have so little empathy for the dead and their families Steve.

Steve

5:02 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

LOL I am sure the President and the Ultra Rightwing Brady's talk on a regular basis.

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JD1

9:30 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

I think it's hysterical how nobody is placing blame on the animals that couldn't exercise self control. Whether the event was oversold, undersold or whatever - since when does that give these idiots a ticket to assault police officers. Too bad the cops couldn't split their heads open but we all know how that would have turned out. Where are the black community leaders and politicians that should be condemning this behavior?

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PerryHallCrafter

6:19 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

They are waiting until someone comes forward with a story about a black youth who was "assaulted" by a police officer during the near riot and how, although he was a participant, was targeted due to the color of his skin. So sick of the race card used for everything.

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Needaname

10:38 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Thank Goodness for cell phone cameras ! ! !

Steve

10:23 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Here's your sheets and Pointy hats...

Maybe you guys can plan a cross burning in the middle of the traffic circle....

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PerryHallCrafter

10:47 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

So, it's OK for say, black leaders to vilify for example a white sports team falsely accused of raping a young black woman, only to find out she made the whole thing up, ruining the lives of some of those involved, yet if someone says it like it is that's not OK? They stood outside (and when I say I'm talking about those racist pigs Sharpton and Jackson and their supporters) crying out for justice and against oppression, but when someone speaks the truth, that's not OK? Whatever.

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Joe

10:53 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

So, you have effectively been reduced to this kind of comment? Empty racist accusations toward others is what you have been reduced to? You are showing just how little you have Steve.

Steve

10:57 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Which "Black Leaders" vilified a white sports team falsely accused of raping a young black women?

"I'm talking about those racist pigs Sharpton and Jackson and their supporters"

.......and you are a parent? I shudder to think what you are teaching your kid.

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John T.

11:24 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

The Rev. Jackson is a parent too. Oh, that's right, the good Rev. has children with his wife and his mistress. What a fine representative for the black community.

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Needaname

11:56 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

.... and Al Sharpton jumped into the pool big time with Tawana Brawley. I wonder if Al Sharpton knew it was false.

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PerryHallCrafter

12:40 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Thanks John T and Needaname...that is exactly what I am talking about. I am teaching my children that it doesn't matter what color a person is, what religion, gender or sexual orientation, they don't get to pull out a card and use it when it's convenient. If you don't know the reference to the Tawana case Steve, well you aren't current with news is all I can say. It was one of the biggest race cards every used. You darn right I'm a parent and proud of how I teach my children to NOT take race and use it as an excuse for everything. How do you even know what race I am? My spouses's race?

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Steve

8:15 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Sure PHP Sure. Now we know why Perry Hall is such a screwed up place. You have the last bastion of Rednecks living there while they wait for Grandma to kick the bucket so they can buy a place up in Pennsyltucky.

RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT

8:12 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Very sad situation. Obviously not Towson students. We unfortunately have a small but growing group of uncivilized people in Baltimore.
It is still confusing how a portion of society can behave this way. I just don't understand how people can behave this way.
Was this the dream of our true civil rights leaders? How would they feel about seeing this?

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James Smith

10:01 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Have you ever been in downtown Towson, during the summer, on Friday and Saturday when the mall closes??? Hundreds of people walking through the town and heading back to the city. Looks similar to the video, each weekend.

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Parkvillehoney

3:49 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

I find it sad that black leaders and black religious leaders SELDOM have anything to say when violence is committed by young black adults. BUT, let a supposed injustice be committed against a black person and let the protesting begin. Sorry, but it works both ways. Call these people out when they commit acts of violence and are disrupting a community with their irresponsible behavior.

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