UPDATE: Police Identify Man Shot at Lutherville Light Rail Stop

Ravnet January 27, 2013 at 01:31 pm

The fact is, when the light rail was shut down from Timonium to Hunt Valley a few years ago for the double track expansion, the shoplifting at Hunt Valley Town Center (at that time Walmart was still there) dropped 85% during that time. There is NO disputing that the light rail brings crime. It is fact.

lars January 27, 2013 at 02:16 pm

Hey Sylvia, ever heard of the sniper killer Lee Malvo, Black and a serial killer. Goggle it. Lest we forgot.

bob roll January 27, 2013 at 03:06 pm

steve i will bring beer !!!!!!!!!!

Mark Jones January 27, 2013 at 03:21 pm

@Ravnet Exactly, well said.
But can't we leave well enough alone? What's the point of having a discussion grounded in reality? It makes me feel so good to be PC.

Mark Jones January 27, 2013 at 03:37 pm

@Other Tim FYI They didn't use the bus bridges. Too lazy and/or stupid to figure out the transfer.

Mark Jones January 27, 2013 at 04:26 pm

@Other Tim Speak for yourself. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?

Harry Callahan January 27, 2013 at 04:59 pm

Peat, people with an attitude like yours of "...pray that my family stays safe in this world...'' are known as SHEEPLE tothose of us who consiider ourselves be warriors. I take responsibility for my own protection. I don't dial 911 because the police are nothing more than armed archaeologists who simply clean up the mess only AFTER a crime occurs. I have one of the VERY FEW concealed carry permits that ordinary people in this beknighted state can obtain and I do carry all of the time. If I, or a member of my family were to be assaulted by one of these toilet floaters from Baltimore City, I can assure you that I will be giving that individual(s) a one-way ticket to meet Jesus. Perhaps you might wish to try and pray for an reason with this trash, but I would rather send them to a permanent home in hell.

bob roll January 27, 2013 at 07:05 pm

other tim, steve, sylvia live in fairyland md, could you give me directions ???????

CP January 28, 2013 at 02:33 pm

I remember when the Light Rail was first built. It was called the White Rail by blacks. As we knew and all know now it is the Loot Rail. And crime hasn't gone up in the area because of it!! SMH

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 05:43 pm

Thank You.

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 05:50 pm

Sorry Steve. It is called disgust. I work hard for my family and home. If you had anything to lose you wouldn't comment. M.Sullivan - Steve is just doing what he does, trolling.

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 05:51 pm

Thanks for update Harry Callahan. NO sympathy here.

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 05:54 pm

Now the Light Rail stations are referred to as the Park and Rob. I like the LR for the ballgames but it just is not worth all the crime.

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 06:01 pm

I have a female friend who is missing a front tooth, suffered a broken cheek bone and pavement scraps after two simian teenagers slammed her 5 foot 2 inch frame into the pavement - AND WALKED OFF LAUGHING. Maybe she should have crossed the road ?

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 06:09 pm

You should take your Infinity QX56 to the neighborhoods and mentor the youth and the adults for that matter. You made it out, you can help these people.

Kevin1845 January 28, 2013 at 06:19 pm

Deserved or not, we don’t need that kind of drama at a MTA stop. I ride the light every day to my job and have never felt threated. I once fought off an attack on a MTA bus back in the mid 90’s but I have not had any serious problems since then. I have had to put up with vulgar language and people urinating next to the tracks. Except for dealing with the occasional broken down bus, late train, or ill-mannered individuals, most of my commute is just fine. I have been using the MTA buses since the late 80’s. I try to use the MTA as little as possible, but that is because its schedule is not always reliable, not because I felt threated with violence. It is amusing reading how some people see the light rail as an evil conduit for crime. As if a bad guy can’t drive a car into your neighborhood. Of the thousands of people who ride the light rail a day the vast majority are people minding their own business, plugged into their own little electronic world trying to get to work or school on time! If I were to believe all the anecdotal stories being quoted as fact, I must be riding the light rail with surrounded by thugs plotting a crime spree. The fact that some fraction of individuals are out to do harm is no reason to scrap the whole system. Fix the system. I feel more threated riding a bike or walking across a street when I see so many drivers blowing through crosswalks with a cell phone at their ear or drunk. Kevin

Patricia Bentz January 28, 2013 at 06:25 pm

Hey Kevin. Thanks for your comments. Sending you sunshine and ostrich feathers to brighten your life and tickle your fancy.

M. Sullivan January 28, 2013 at 07:25 pm

Kevin, you must have a very high tolerance level to put up with some of the people you describe. The criminals can sure drive cars but, Light Rail provides the anonymity not to be found by using an identifiable vehicle. Plus, the L.R. provides easy and cheap (or free) transport to the most desperate, who don't even have a car. Anyone who has lived in Lutherville, Timonium, Cockeysville since before Light Rail can easily attest to the negative changes it has brought. You may find L.R. useful because you are one of the relative few who works near a L.R. stop. But, this train is costing the state transportation budget a lot of money to subsidize a few people's ride to work and bring crime to once peaceful suburbs. Now they want to raise gas taxes to pay for "transportation projects" while they throw millions away on Light Rail. Anyone who is honest must admit that this make no sense!

M. Sullivan January 28, 2013 at 07:28 pm

How about some crystals too?

martie January 28, 2013 at 08:55 pm

hey i know the person who was shot i assure you he was returning from work on the lightrail as he does everyday drugs have nothing to do with it. Just because we know it was an African American man! !!!

M. Sullivan January 28, 2013 at 09:08 pm

Right, martie. Maybe it was revenge from one of his previous victims of attempted murder, armed robbery, assault, etc.

Colin January 28, 2013 at 09:11 pm

Mass transit has been the cause of most of suburbia's issues. No amount of political correctness or putting one's head in the sand will ever divert the glaring truth that the majority of personal and property crimes are committed by blacks from the city. Pikesville and Randallstown used to be nice areas as well back in the 70s and 80s, but now the areas are almost 100 percent black and shootings, theft and violence are the norm. Why is it that when blatant truth is told, it's labeled racism? Facts are facts.

avp January 28, 2013 at 10:03 pm

black or white, if you rob someone at gunpoint they should amputate your hand.

kevin p January 28, 2013 at 11:31 pm

"all the best to the victim"? The "victim" has a record almost as long as the light rail!! Are you happy that you are paying the hospital bill? How about if you reimburse the law abiding citizens?

Needaname January 28, 2013 at 11:35 pm

Good point. Someone said 95 percent of the shooting victims that come into Johns Hopkins Hospital DO NOT HAVE insurance. Who pays ....

kevin p January 29, 2013 at 12:27 am

From the news and police report...the 3 suspects who fled are black...the race of the shooting "victim" was not reported

D Schmid January 29, 2013 at 01:41 pm

21093, what an excellent idea! If not amputating a hand, how about the trigger finger?

Kevin1845 January 29, 2013 at 01:49 pm

M Sullivan, Yeah I guess I am a tolerant person. Most of my coworkers laugh or cringe when I tell them about some of the trials and tribulations I have endured using the MTA. Bottom line is the money I save by not paying some multi-billion dollar oil company to pollute the sea food I eat can go to my kids’ education instead. The money I choose not give to some Mideast dictator who supports terrorism against the USA can be invested in my retirement plan. The money I save on car maintenance and repairs can be used for a nice vacation. Your point about being able to travel with anonymity on the LR is not correct. Most LR stops and MTA buses now have surveillance cameras. Your assertion that only a few people use the LR is also incorrect. While the usage will ebb and flow during the day, during peak rush hour it can be hard to find a vacate seat. Throw in a Raven or Oriole game and it can become standing room only. Now that the MTA allows bikes onboard trains and the situation can get crowded fast. Take a look at Lutherville or Falls Road park-n-ride and the lots are full. Also I am not sure what facts you are talking about when you say that Maryland Transport Department cannot afford the LR. The 30 mile LR was completed over 14 years ago at a cost of 600 million. Compare that with the 2.5 billion that was just spent on the 14 mile ICC! Now that is TRAGIC!

Kaori January 30, 2013 at 08:48 am

"The fact that some fraction of individuals are out to do harm is no reason to scrap the whole system."
People who comment here don't understand this, because to them, all Black people are criminals.

Needaname January 30, 2013 at 11:48 am

Other Tim - seriously speaking - the black people that commit these crimes are from the city. Black people do work, pay taxes, go to school and do not commit crimes - I cannot remember reading about any black people from Cockeysville doing this kind of stuff. This is why the race card does not work.