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Man Commits Suicide at Timonium Gun Range

Police officers found a man dead in the gun range at Continental Arms.

A man shot and killed himself Thursday evening at a Timonium gun shop and firing range, according to Baltimore County police spokesman Cpl. John Wachter.

Police responded to a 911 call regarding a shooting at the Continental Arms firing range a little after 5 p.m., Thursday.

It was determined at the scene that the man died of a self-inflicted gun shot wound. Two police cruisers remained in the upper parking lot on Deereco Road as of 6 p.m.

There were no other injuries reported.

Individuals seeking to rent a gun at Continental Arms must first provide a driver's license or some other form of government-issued identification. First time range shooters must also read over the rules and regulations of the range before obtaining a gun, in addition to filling out paperwork.

Patrons are often quizzed verbally on the rules, Patch has observed on a number of occasions.

Additionally, all ammunition used at the range must be purchased there.

It is unclear at this time if the deceased was a regular shooter at the firing range.

The deceased was found in the firing range area at Continental Arms and not the gun shop.

Continental Arms is located at 9603 Deereco Road in Timonium.

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A. White February 01, 2013 at 07:22 PM
Laura, point me to where I can buy some ammo online on the cheap, and I'll be on that as fast as I can click the link :-P
Laura M. February 01, 2013 at 07:24 PM
SG ammo has had it on occasion lately. it pays to keep shopping the websites, really.
A. White February 01, 2013 at 07:25 PM
I've been looking, but pretty much striking out. Everything seems to be OOS. I'll take a look at SG ammo; thanks for the rec!
Laura M. February 01, 2013 at 07:32 PM
SG actually has real-time updated inventory, while the other sites i've used (Natchez, Cabelas) generally allow backorders.
scott morton February 01, 2013 at 08:22 PM
Wife and I were in there when it happened. Unreal.
Tom Sharp February 01, 2013 at 08:28 PM
Wasn't until my second visit to Continental that I realized the staff wasn't just "having a bad day" my first time there. I'll never be back. Being condescending idiots isn't the way to attract repeat business. I'd drive to PA before going back.
Gail Talbott February 01, 2013 at 08:36 PM
love to reload but can't find small quantities to buy
A. White February 01, 2013 at 08:40 PM
Tom: I felt the same way the first couple times I went in. However, I then thought about all the stupid crap they must have to deal with on a regular basis and decided I'd probably be cynical about newcomers too. After I had three or four trips under my belt and they trusted I knew how to operate a firearm, it was much nicer. Lots of people embellish their "experience" with firearms. Being nice is definitely second to keeping the range safe. I had an enlightening experience at a range northeast of here; the RO looked on as this guy *repeatedly* did a muzzle sweep of the range (and it was busy!) with his shotgun. I packed up my crap and left. If the RO isn't going to say something, I'm not gonna be the victim of a ND.
james miller February 01, 2013 at 09:58 PM
I am very sad this happened and I will chime in and say that every time I visit which is quite often I get the same cold, why are you here type treatment whether in the sales area or the range area in the back. I have been going for several years and also visit Free State and Freedom in PA in which the experience is polar opposite. At continental most questions are answered with a head nod or a shake or a verbal yes or no if your lucky. The gun rental fee for 5$ is awesome and ammo prices are great and THAT is the only thing that keeps me coming back, it certainly is not the experience. The reason I landed here is because channel 13 news teased this story as 'man killed at continental arms' at 6pm then never followed up. I imagine once they found out it was suicide they canned the story so that other unstable folks don't duplicate which is commendable.
Stan Modjesky February 02, 2013 at 01:56 AM
@scott morton - how long did the police keep you around interviewing you?
Holton F. Brown February 02, 2013 at 02:47 AM
Stan .. I have to agree with .. a shooting range isn't conducive to small talk ... in a fire house to talk about fires and rescues .. hobby shops talking on building and flying/sailing modells ... shooting ranges, "hey, how many squirrels ya blow away last weekend?" ..now don't get in an uproar out there .. I own and shoot guns .. one's an M4 ..another is a Remington 700 ( M-40..).
Stan Modjesky February 02, 2013 at 03:24 AM
When I am at the range, all my attention is focused on that area downrange of the muzzle. Unless I am coaching someone, in which case all my attention is focused on that shooter and his/her movements. I would not risk injury by shooting the breeze around moving machinery, and it's just the same principle. You're dealing with an implement that can cause injury if it's handled carelessly. Maybe you'd like to meet my cousin, who lost his left index finger in a chop saw, because he wasn't paying attention...
scott morton February 02, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Stan- The police had plenty of video evidence to determine what happened so we were not formally interviewed. As far as the staff goes, we found them very friendly and helpful. Wife and I were in there for the first time to check the place out and had just walked away from the lines when it happened. First time at a pistol range for her so it goes without saying she is still freaked out.
tommy g February 02, 2013 at 06:43 PM
My heart breaks for people and the families that choose to take their own life! And especially those of you that don't have a relationship with Jesus Christ.Everyone will have to kneel before GOD one day
tommy g February 02, 2013 at 07:51 PM
The people at CA are very nice once you get to know them! The reality is they have a huge responsibly not to mention liability to customers and safety is a serious matter. I think they do a great job keeping that balance of friendliness and seriousness that comes with that magnitude of responsibility! There are some folks there that are like family to me. Im sure that like mine their hearts are troubled over this tradgidy! Most importantly GOD is in control and He love each and everyone of us more than we can imagion! My prayers go out to all involved! Blessings and Peace tommy g
Bill Wiesand February 02, 2013 at 08:36 PM
Gail Talbott - maybe you could split orders of components with other reloaders?
Stan Modjesky February 02, 2013 at 09:09 PM
Scott, I'm glad to know that the police did not make matters worse for you, and especially your wife, by doing a lot of interviewing. Please be patient with her, and try to help her understand that something like this is an extremely rare occurrence.
Stan Modjesky February 03, 2013 at 03:12 PM
I don't think WJZ's spiking of the story had anything to do with a fear it would create a risk of copycat behavior. Broadcast newsrooms do not make decisions on that basis. For what it's worth, every range that has been in business for a while has had at least one suicide. What some people have criticized here as a negative attitude from the staff at this place is VIGILANCE. You work in a gun shop or range, and you have a responsibility to watch and evaluate everyone within sight, all the time. Even people who are well known. I am less likely to shoot at a public range where people are all warm and fuzzy. This is not "fun," folks--it's dead serious stuff, and if you don't think of it that way, I hope you're not on the firing line when I am, because I don't want you endangering me by having so much fun you aren't paying attention. I have seen it, especially with groups of people. In fact, I have left the range and reported it to the RO on occasion.
Robert Kutner February 03, 2013 at 05:58 PM
lots of shooters in the range and who know who's deranged. this whole gun thing is out of control. I like to practice at the range too, but did see the cops and ambulance Thursday evening and knew something terrible had happened. How do we stop the madness dear friends?
Stan Modjesky February 03, 2013 at 08:01 PM
Every public range that has been in business for a few years has seen at least one suicide. From what I was told this morning, this guy was considerate enough to have waited until nobody else was on the firing line before killing himself. But you cannot control anyone but yourself: maintain situational awareness, stay in control of your temper and actions, try to act with a bit of dignity and maturity, be as considerate of others as possible. Trouble will still find you. When it does, you deal with it, put it behind you as quickly as possible and stay the course.
Needaname February 05, 2013 at 09:25 PM
Where is the 'Like' button ?
Tom Sharp February 05, 2013 at 09:42 PM
I am at a loss as to how being unapproachable improves the safety of your customers. If anything, having newbies be comfortable to ask which end of the gun the bullet comes out should be rule number one for a range employee. Then, for people such as this guy, maybe if they actually engaged their customers in a five second "how about those Ravens" conversation maybe they would have spotted that the guy was having a REALLY bad day. I am NOT saying it would have helped in this situation, but if part of their duty is to somehow size-up their customers for everyone's protection, then I do not know how they do that by never engaging them.
Stan Modjesky February 06, 2013 at 05:25 PM
It has been asked what may have happened to many of my earlier posts here, and since that's a fair question: I deleted them myself. When I looked back at where this discussion went so quickly, I realized that it had become juvenile, and that none of us had shown the compassion to have asked whether others were injured, or to learn so much as the name of the person who committed suicide. As a mature individual, I am always willing to amend something I have done that reveals bad judgment on my part. Simultaneously, I had suggested that the editors of Patch remove some of the other comments that seem inappropriate. That they have not done, and that's fine. Another mistake I made was to engage in a protracted exchange with someone who lacks the courage to make himself unambiguously identifiable. That's a principle I have held to online for many years, and I regret having been goaded into violating it. As one of my mentors is fond of observing: "Never wrestle with a pig--both of you get muddy, and the pig actually enjoys it."
Jim Sagerholm February 24, 2013 at 02:41 AM
But everyone is a child of God.
dcs 71646 May 01, 2013 at 06:06 PM
Every time I've been to CA i have had a grate experience i am former army 2nd rangers 7th battalion and they have always treated me well i have also brought 2 first time gun users and i thought they did an excellent job of letting them know rules and safety procedures so that counts for slot in my book i have a home in WV and have my own rifle and pistol range but only go there every 3 weeks so i like to shoot 3 times a week and they enforce the rules it is the only place that ask to see my class 3 license for my full auto weapon as to the moronthat said suicide is a cop out you must have not been through much in your life that man must have been extremely mentaly disturbed normal people don't kill them selves thank my god that he did not shoot up everyone
Stan Modjesky May 02, 2013 at 02:24 AM
Apparently the range was not crowded on the night of the suicide, and the guy had the decency to wait until no one else was at the firing line. I could have been worse. Which is why I don't understand the people who have complained here that the CA people were not sufficiently friendly and touchy-feely for their taste. I want the employees, especially the range safety officer, to be dead serious, and paying full attention. There's one RSO there who is a long time IPSC competitor, and he does not let anything get past him, especially in the matter of people getting sloppy about muzzle control. I am always glad to see him on the job. The other guy who probably rubs people the wrong way is that 70-ish man with the Italian surname. This man is retired from the Coast Guard, has been in a lot of tough scrapes, and is not someone you want to displease. But I have never known him to be nasty, just extremely direct. It took me about six months of regular shooting there to earn his respect, and now that I have assisted in a couple of classes that he has taught, I have a good feel for the kind of foolishness these people have to tolerate every single day. And, after all, this ain't tiddlywinks; it's a sport that involves deadly weapons.
Stan Modjesky May 02, 2013 at 01:03 PM
I have no reason to defend CA, although some of you appear to believe otherwise. Every business is going to attract some soreheads, and it's worth observing a couple of things here, especially with regard to the comment by "Steve:" 1. I'm just as happy that you don't want to shoot there. The place seems plenty busy without your business, and for my own safety I'd just as soon not be around other shooters who less than fully satisfied with the place. So, thanks for taking your business elsewhere. 2. Like most people on Patch, you have posted here more-or-less anonymously, and in your case I think that is a wise decision, since you have made some unsupported and potentially libelous assertions about the place and the way it's managed. Beside running several businesses of my own I worked as a ticket agent for Trailways for a time. I learned that no matter what you do, you cannot possibly please everyone, and that if you run your enterprise on the principle of accommodating the crankiest element among your customers, you will usually end up having alienated the very people you'd prefer to have spending time and money in your place of business. So "Steve," whoever you may be: have a nice life. It sounds as though you are working awfully hard in the opposite direction, but that's really none of my concern. :)
Stan Modjesky May 03, 2013 at 03:03 PM
Oh, is he one of those multiple-identity types that frequent Patch? Since the beginning, I have been arguing that Patch ought to require real-name identities, or at least check to make sure people aren't posting under several names from the same IP address. To no avail. Back in the era of CompuServe and some of its competitors, you were not allowed to be anonymous, and IMHO things remained far more civil as a result. No personal insult intended here to El Capitan and some others who have used a pseudonym responsibly for many years. I myself posted a blog for more than five years in which I was not identified by my real name. I had a change of heart about that a few years ago, and the only worry about my using my real-world name is that the occasional abusive phone call has been misdirected to my Mom, whose phone is still listed under my late father's name, which is the same as mine.
Steve May 03, 2013 at 03:20 PM
LOL Stan you are replying to a person who has been banned from Patch multiple times. You might remember him as BO or Kongo. That's your idea of responsible? That's funny.
Stan Modjesky May 03, 2013 at 03:52 PM
"Steve," or whoever you are: that does not make YOU any less contemptible. I can't put it any more simply than this.

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